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05/17/2005
Entry: "What if?"

Hmmm…
Being the kind of brother who will occasionally ponder a serious thought or two, if only to prove to myself that the noggin is not yet polluted with a vast emptiness, I happened to ruminate on this thought...what if institutional slavery never happened to us as a people on the scale that it did when it did, cause we all know it did. Institutional slavery as it was practiced here in America back in the day. Think about that for a moment. What if black people (meaning anyone who was enslaved and oppressed, ok?) were never forced to come to America to man the cotton plantations? What if Eli Whitney never invented the cotton gin, which revolutionized the cotton industry and made it a hugely profitable cash crop, which in turn made it necessary for the plantation owners to find cheap (slave) labor to plant and harvest the cotton, etc., etc. I wonder what course history would have taken if black people were pretty much left alone in Africa and other parts of the world back then instead of being forced into servitude here in America? I wonder what course in history America would have taken without the benefit of the slave labor that built the economic powerhouses of that day, which in turn enabled America’s rapid rise as a global superpower? What if America had done the moral thing then and used paid laborers from all immigrants instead of flipping for the evilness of using slaves? As much as people try to minimize the fact that this country was built on the backs of slaves, they will never be able to deny that sobering truth. I just sometimes wonder about where this country would be today if slavery never happened, if black people had just been allowed to immigrate here to start a new life just like everyone else if they so chose. If institutionalized slavery had never happened, and black folk had been left to their own designs to live their lives unhindered just as every other culture was doing at the time the whole balance of the entire world would have been different today no doubt. Perhaps the vast majority of them would have chosen to settle else where, or maybe they would have been just as prolific as America’s early “settlers”. I also wonder about what kind of dynamic the fabric of America would have taken had this country chosen to follow the word of the Constitution from the beginning…meaning…”ALL men are created equal” means ALL men…not “just those who look like us”.

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on Friday, June 3rd, 2005 @ 12:57 AM EST
chele said

hmmmmmmm i know this for sure it would be different.. way different.
oh by the way nice changes my friend..
very nice changes..
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on Tuesday, May 24th, 2005 @ 10:30 AM EST
Cheryl said

Geez Greggy. What a good question. Hm...requires thought. Very good post, very good reflection. I'll get back to you on this one. Wow...very good.

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on Tuesday, May 24th, 2005 @ 03:52 AM EST
Abbie:D said

Hey, I've been having a deep thought or 2 of my own... But I've been thinking about the question you posed here. Being the God-believing woman that I am, I believe that slavery disrupted the plans of God. We haven't necessarily felt the repercussions yet, but Egypt too was a thriving world power until God decided to act. America has been awfully cocky lately, sitting in the cat-bird seat....

I agree Abbie. It is my belief that America if she continues traveling the path that this country is headed in will eventually suffer the fate of all the previous world powers that came before her. I just wish that our Prez wasn't so damn cocky and thinking that his way is the right way regardless of who gets hurt or trampled under.

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on Monday, May 23rd, 2005 @ 12:30 AM EST
ceecee said

Greggy I forgot your birthdayyyyyy!
Well actually I haven't been online but to check my email and I haven't gone blog hopping in a while, I hope you had a marvellous birthday and I hope you have a better year than last year.

With that said, this post brings to mind a conversation I had wih a white kid in my thermo class, he was stating matter of factly why slavery happened, it just wasn't right coming from him.
Anyway, I didn't let him go on, but I didn't get into a big argument with him either.
Call me crazy, even if there was no slavery or colonialism, there'd still be a divide, maybe not racial, but it'd still be there.

You got that right ceecee! They would have just found something else to separate us by. It's the nature of the beast, I think. It amazes me how folk sometimes try to speak on something like they know all the answers when they aint had jack to do with the situation anyway! Hey, thanks for the belated b-day wish dear, much appreciated

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on Sunday, May 22nd, 2005 @ 05:19 PM EST
MzAziza said

This entry reminded me of an incident several years ago when my History teacher back in 9th grade tried to minimize the brutality of slavery. Thank God my parents taught the truth at home.

Aint that something? In my high school years I can remember something similar also..one of the teachers got into a whole lot of trouble once when she told her class that most slaves at the time wanted to remain in slavery instead of becoming free.....huh???? Yeah right...

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on Saturday, May 21st, 2005 @ 04:39 PM EST
Aziza said

This posting was refreshing to read in a world that tries to minimize the effects of institutional slavery.

Thank you Aziza, thanks for stopping by. Believe it or not, in a discussion once I even heard someone deny that slavery even happened!!! Of course they attempted to back-pedal and spin it a different way, but still!!! Anyway I really think that is why America is so rife with division, because we never came to terms with it as a nation.

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on Saturday, May 21st, 2005 @ 12:27 AM EST
Don said

Again, I say that God works in mysterious ways. Of course, I know slavery was an awful institution, please don't misunderstand my right-brain thinking. But sometimes I wonder, when I consider the condition of Africa today; the genocide of Rwanda, Sudan and others; the disease of AIDS and all the other atrocities: what if God allowed the awful institution of slavery which took so many lives — to save a few Africans over the long haul. Just a crazy ponder. Ok, punch me.

hehehe Brother D...you are correct in saying God works in mysterious ways, although I beg to differ with whether or not God "allowed" the institution of slavery...man allowed that to happen, remember we are all given free will. It is a novel thought none the less, but perhaps the condition of Africa as it rests today is a DIRECT result of the actions of Europeans during their period of "exploration & discovery" as they "allowed" themselves to believe their race and culture was supreme and everyone else on earth was subhuman...
lol @ your "Ok, punch me."...not! At my spot, differing opinions are not only tolerated they are encouraged bro! Happy sketching!

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on Friday, May 20th, 2005 @ 02:46 AM EST
Noëlle said

wow greggy deep thoughts! yeh what would have become of the world if the history wouldn't be what it was? i'm sure that every part of the world would be lacking knowledge

You got that right dear! Every part of the globe would not be the same today thats for sure!

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on Thursday, May 19th, 2005 @ 06:24 AM EST
chele said

...giving my daughter two very strong races to draw from .. I can only hope that the past of both her heritages will come forth and guide her, and help her to know that was a very negative period in our country.. that we must never repeat in any way...and that instead of letting that hold black folks down that it made them stronger and more resilent..
wow thanks for the great words.....

I'm sure your lovely daughter will prosper in the knowledge of the richness of both cultures. I hope the same for my daughter in almost the same way, not that she is from two races, but that she will never forget our history or who we are as a people, always be proud of our history and ancestry..

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on Wednesday, May 18th, 2005 @ 05:30 PM EST
Frank said

I'll tell you what America would've been lacking man. All of these things would've been imported from Africa. The black man created the cell phone, clothes dryer, the elevator, gas mask, mail boxes, typewriter, traffic lights...and God knows what else. Our contributions would've been magnified nearly ten-fold. That's as good a place to start. Nice job on this post.

I've always believed that the current state of affairs in Africa and the entire world is a direct result of the meddling of outside interests during colonial times. The moral pulse of the world changed once human beings began being bought and sold like heads of cattle...

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on Wednesday, May 18th, 2005 @ 03:23 PM EST
purfiktgurl said

that's a pretty big 'what if'. hmm, i don't know. things would definitely be different, maybe some other people/or 'lower status' americans at that time, would have ended up being enslaved.

you know thats an interesting thought in itself...maybe "they" just would have enslaved the remaining Indians that were already here...

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